C868EUD
I recently came across a picture of billy coleman driving C868EUD on the donegal rally in 1986 driving this car,now i thought this car was a works built car,so was it lent out to prodrive for this event or did prodrive aquire the car to add to jimmy mcraes C749lfM,can any one shed any light on this for me? Dan

Was it 868 or 869 as Billy had a Left hand drive one as he had come from the Porsche which was LHD. He smashed the front end on the Manx of 86 I know that

it was 868 which was rhd looking at my picture,he drove c84 rBD to begin with which was the car jim mcrae drove on the national breakdown

Just discussed this with Gus from RallyRetro.com and he sent me a list of Billy's cars 1986 DONEGAL Ronan Morgan Metro 6R4 C 869 EUD 1986 CORK Ronan Morgan Metro 6R4 C84 RBD 1986 MANX INT Ronan Morgan 6R4 C 869 EUD Donegal Cork 86 All 6R4 photos available to buy from Rally Retro.com Cheers Gus

nice one mark,cheers

Nice info,guys! I always wondered what happened to C84 RBD after the 86 National Breakdown. Does anyone know where it is now? I think I remember hearing that the engine in the Donegal-winning Metro was the same engine which had earlier packed in on the Manx,costing Jimmy McRae the Open Championship. Does that ring a bell with anyone or has my brain thrown a sparkplug again?? :shock: All the best, Gary.

Blimey never knew that Gibsons car carried that reg :o Fantastic pics courtesy of rallyretro.com

Apologies for my lack of contributions over the last 10 weeks - it has been somewhat manic, and I am only now finding time to catch up with assorted forums! C84RBD was originally used by McRae on the 1986 National Breakdown in right hand drive configuration. It was then converted to left hand drive for Billy Coleman to use on the Cork 20 Rally, but I also thought he'd used it on the Manx International Rally aswell - must check my files here Mark. Billy also used C869 EUD on the 1986 Shell Donegal Rally - as has been said. The original Rothmans rally car was sold to Tore Bratlie in Norway for use in rallycross - but without the VIN No and Reg No C84 RBD. I have photos of this car at the British Rallycross GP in Tore's livery - but it still has the Rothmans stripes over the roof and down the rear side windows! The VIN No and Reg No were then switched to another David Richards Autosport built car and sold to Brian Bell for rallying and then Aiden Creegan for rallycross. The latter crashed it heavily at the 1988 British Rallycross GP, and the car was then rebuilt into a new bodyshell for him to continue in rallycross until 1991. That rallycross car - complete with VIN No and Reg No was then sold to a series of other rallycross drivers - Norman Kittle, John Haffey, John Moloney and then bringing it right up to date, Lawrence Gibson. There is however one more car that has worn the Reg No C84 RBD - the David Richards Autosport built left hand drive Clubman for Finnish privateer Mika Arpianen. This car famously got rolled into a ball on the 1986 1000 lakes Rally. I know it's not really about C869 EUD that this topic started about, but then I didn't bring up the topic of C84 RBD now did I? Trust that has been of interest. :wink:

Thats great dave,thanks for clearing that up for me,ive never noticed the 'other' c84rbd on the 86 1000 lakes vid ive got1! Dan

Is this the same Rallycross car that competed on the Hillclimb event I showed you pics of David